And then you test it in various scenarios. Ive considered morphine [since Shanann was a lupus sufferer, and needed strong pain meds], but morphine should have come up in the autopsy. Think before you speak, Im glad he will never be out of his jail cell. could also suggest a Stranglehold. He kind of giggled & said like you mean like on TV like a magician. A trillion to bullshit thats what they are!!! August 4, 2018, 12:45 a.m.: Shanann sends her husband a long text message accusing him of failing to stand up for her after his parents exposed their daughter Celeste to nuts, which she was allergic to. But there were some issues. And, as you point out in one of your replies to anothers comment about the oil in her body, there was no oil in her lungs, in her stomach yes, in her lungs no. He said it took minutes, the police reports say. How do you or any of us know what her last words to Chris were? Chris Watts strangled and smothered his pregnant wife Shanann, 34, to death, before strangling their daughters Bella, 4, and Celeste, 3, with a blanket in 2018. Chris came home and gave consent to search and said that he found Shananns wedding ring on the night stand. He is a monster. Tell the world, especially the misinformed idiots who think Chris Watts is an attractive man and Shannan was controlling. Thus, the little girls may have been unconscious but they were NOT COMPLETELY DEAD YET.and that is how oil got into their LUNGS !!!!!!!!! Mucho menos que estaba enferma. Police reportsA photo of one of the girls. Said it was part of the decomposition process. Or do you believe his lies, that she harmed the kids and then he did same to her? The Watts family killings and the financial devastation, infidelity, and what appears on the videos as a mindless neglect of the children overlay all these sad accounts. @Kaye Im thinking the girls were killed after Shanann because he knew she would look in on them, perhaps kiss them, before turning to bed herself.>>>When he murdered Shanann, how do you think he did it? All those purchases, that expensive leased SUV that LeVel would only give her a car allowance for if she kept her sales up, the expensive preschool, the too-big house with all the fancy furnishings, several closets full of expensive shoes-shoes-shoes (yet she wore the same pair of flipflops every day), multiple purses, more clothes than one person could possibly be using, on and on and on. Watts previously told investigators that Shannan's killing. Powered by. At least I would have. I have no insight? I always wondered why she didnt fight back, too. 1. If Im interpreting the autopsy correctly he effectively smothered and strangled at the same time but I never see this mentioned anywhere. I dont believe this was planned because everyone says that its ridiculous that he buried them at his place of employment. Its completely obvious from videos that the wife was a nut job, self absorbed, controlling weirdo that undermined her husband constantly..so leave her ass!! He says he never saw what happened to Bella because he was downstairs. In the first half of this demo, you have them face to face when the attack occurs. He didnt attempt to revive the children or call for help. GPS from Watts work truck led police to the oil well. Chris Watts advised that blankets and stuffed animals were left by the sheet which was near Shananns grave. A Stranglehold can incapacitate and render unconsciousness within 5 11 seconds. Thats a power-nap another thing MLM folk are good at. Theres just too much, including motive, he wanted a life with Nicole with no disturbances. He then pursued and strangled her there. And even if he did not kill them twice so to speak, he killed the on in front of the other with no thoughts to their fear levels or anything but yet you put all the blame on another of the victims. After 2nd child, changed. Parents reach for any hope, even if the child is blue, even if rigor has set in, theyre desperate and people who are not emotionally involved as them, professionals,have to tell them its too late. Notice she was undressed when found. Anyway, this is the scenario I would paint if I were the prosecutor in the case. Any attacking motion he made that Shanann saw, even for a second, would have prompted her to scream. Celeste and Bellas bodies were each inside one of the tanks. Thankyou. Based on the history provided and the autopsy findings, the cause of death is asphyxiation due to smothering. This put undo pressure on the marriage and Chris being the douche bag he is, it was too much pressure to perform I beleive. I also have seen that neighbors vid of the loading of truck & see a female in video helping him load up , and even a small luve figure of a child. OCD can be like gluten-sensitivities. Chris probably told shannan that shed never see the kids again.. It DOES NOT make her a bad mother when I comment on what I saw and what I think. For more information on having conversations at this site: https://crimerocket.com/2018/12/21/true-crime-rocket-science-how-to-have-conversations-on-this-site-and-how-not-to/. Shanann was in there with her on top of her. And did you mention that the 6 weeks Shannan was in NC with her girls that your Hero Chris Watts was enjoying 6 weeks of being single with his girlfriend, and that was the turning point in their marriage? Hes a piece of crap but make no mistake, they would be alive if not for Shannan. @nickdvl. The autopsy is commenced at 1030 hours, on August 17, 2018 on the body of Shanann Watts at the McKee Medical Center, Loveland, CO. I believe the DA said there was no evidence of fibers related to the smothering of Bella and Celeste. Also just because she was strangled and they were suffocated doesnt mean dirt. If he straddled her chest, and pins her arms down with his knees, she would have been incapacitated. Can anyone comment about the oil content in the one childs stomach? He has to be asked if he EVER went to look at Bella and see what condition she was in. 2. Diana, this is something several of us have noted as well. I also believe Shanann was also sleeping when the attack occurred which could explain her lack of putting up a fight. Back? I always slept in a bra when I was in my 20s and 30s. If Chris *hadnt* killed them, would he have gone to so much trouble to hide the bodies? She didnt try to bite him? She had the girls in daycare full time to the tune of $500 a week, spending $28k a year per official documents, and this HAD to be a financial strain. I guess he did want to get rid of them all, and do it all over again with her. Supposedly he took them out of school and said they wouldnt be coming back. I wrote a book that tried to integrate information, not just throw the information in the air and shrug. If he did it he would have killed in the same manner of death which would have been strangulation not smothering. And to come home to a cheating bum! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vYC7bHIzuqE. After reading the 2000 page discovery & the autopsy report & listening to the FBI agent talk about other cases I learned that smothering by manual force is done very frequently to children. They went to her house and observed her car in the garage. They didnt do date nights. This story breaks my heart. What do you think about the 8 inch thief hatch, and the narrowest section of Ceecees hips being 9.5 inches, according to the autopsy? He really thought he could get away with this? Very CW. That goes against every human primal instinct we have, it just wouldnt happen. She was always busy. When you are larger or they are tender, especially when pregnant, it is easier to sleep in them. Now thats one of the main ways that most lay people think of first but he was coming up with these weird ways but distancing himself from strangling. Did Chris Watts not mind his wife Shanann humiliating him on Facebook? Im sure if he were pretending to sleep she would have been so tired she would have gone to sleep right away, thinking well talk in the morning, things will be better tomorrow. If anything, I would say its more like few / some. He could have planned to go to work early that morning so as to avoid talking to Shanann. Makes me so sick. It's difficult to speculate what the norm would be in a criminal case, especially where an autopsy would need to be performed on both the mother . It seems as if the account Chris gave once he was finally in jail and writing letters was the truth. dirty murderer! Maybe im not reading this correctly or i missed it but what proof does this autopsy shows that chris beyond a reasonable doubt killed his kids? http://www.timescall.com/ci_32281483/autopsy-reports-show-shanann-watts-daughters-were-asphyxiated, But Celeste didnt have oil her stomach. Celestes was similar. Does this indicate that she was alive after being put into the oil tank? He tells his vindictive wife that he wants out. He cared more about his 2 month relationship with that home wrecker then the 6 years he spent with his wife and the lives of his children. LEE: Depends on sometime we find saliva, large amount of saliva, nasal secretion, mixed with small amount of blood on the pillow. I consider it strange to have them there (in preschool) FT at their age, given the business she was inseems like it could have been done around an at home schedule for the girls, IMO.. Found this research paper a stunning indictment of Multilevel Marketing (MLM) industry. The lie detector test question focused solely on her, didnt even mention the kids. Inhaling ethanol fumes would make them all instant drunk and completely defenseless. I believe he killed her while she was sleeping, would have been easy to trap her arms under covers. Not a single drop of blood on the bed sheets, and she winged him apparently with her nails on his neck. @Eleni Let me put it this way there is zero evidence that Shanann was upstairs. Rude person. From what I understand its not possible to swallow fluids once youre dead. CW said he was not a monster because in his opinion he killed them humanely. (blood chokes, carotid restraints or sleeper holds) Even flailing my legs they werent even reaching him. And then I freaked out and hurt her., He whispered, Sheshe smothered them. Please review our privacy policy here: https://heavy.com/privacy-policy/, Copyright 2023 Heavy, Inc. All rights reserved. The autopsy report details her cause of death and injuries. They are good at lying and work very hard at appearing normal and very important to be liked. The autopsy is commenced at 1730 hours, on August 17, 2018 on the body of Celeste Watts at the McKee Medical Center, Loveland, CO. No matter the circumstances he killed not 3 but 4 people including his unborn child. Bella was face up in the oil tank. When the girls were not at daycare, and at home, they took very long naps, and also had a 6:30 pm bedtime, sleeping 630-6:30. Ive been on those late flight arrivals often. The girls were just in their pajamas; they werent wrapped in blankets. Jeremy Lindstromwondered if Shananns OCD and honey-do lists had gotten to Chris. She just laid there still because he was in such a rage? Its in the autopsy x. It is a condition that causes you to have irrational and uncontrolled thoughts, and the only way to make the thoughts stop, is to perform a ritual. She also could not stand Shannan. Or perhaps he left when the sun was coming up because thats when he usually left for work. Yes, Posted Youtube videos shows that her office was messy. As a former forensic detective I dont completely agree with the DAs comment that it is normal. Im just saying if her friend had never come over. In that sense when you learn her OCD was a significant factor, you ask how significant. He is responsible for his own actions, many people live with worse and dont kill anyone. He knew this too, which is why he was so brazen using the card that weekend. Netflix viewers believe a murdered wife sent police a clue from beyond the grave after spotting something "creepy" in the doco about her brutal murder at the hands of her cheating husband. 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